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Up Close with Pollack Media Group’s Jim
Kerr
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Pollack Media Group Vice President of
New Media Jim Kerr joined the company in
2004 after fifteen years in the print
and broadcast industries. At PMG, Jim is
responsible for integrated new media
strategies, working with Pollack Media's
traditional media clients on maximizing
new media technology, while also working
with new media and Web 2.0 clients as
they look to expand their reach and
connect with consumers. He is also the
principal author of PMG's yearly new
media trends report, "The New Media
Landscape." It’s a position that Kerr
says is “50% product development, 50%
business development, and 100%
bridge-building.” We caught up with
him for this week’s eQB cover story.
Over your last three years as a
consultant, what has been the biggest
surprise in your role while working with
radio stations?
The biggest surprise has been the real
openness and lack of ego I'm finding in
program directors. They honestly appear
to be looking for answers to difficult
questions in a difficult time. It
doesn't matter if it's a Senior
VP/Programming, a PD in a top ten
market, or a PD in a tiny, unrated town;
nearly all of the PDs I talk with like
to hear honest criticism and to have
their opinions challenged.
What do you feel is radio’s biggest
strength as it leverages itself in the
competitive multi-media landscape?
The single biggest strength for radio is
its extraordinary reach. While
listenership is down, the reality is
that more people listen to radio today
than listened ten years ago. Look at it
this way: If you take all of the
listening from Internet radio, satellite
radio, and iPod and MP3 player users and
combined them, you'd still end up with
less than half the number of people that
listen to radio in an average week.
Of course the real issue looking forward is how radio
companies can leverage that reach and
successfully migrate them to other
co-owned distribution channels, from HD
broadcasts to cell phone streams to
Internet web site usage. Radio has thus
far been very ineffective at doing this,
especially when compared to the
newspaper and, more and more, the
television industries.
What tech platforms do you see as the
most useful and profitable for radio in
the near term?
Ultimately, mobile will be the real
opportunity for radio, because radio has
long been considered an "everywhere"
medium – you could get radio at home, in
your car, in your gym, at work, and
elsewhere. That image has taken a
beating because radio is not the most
personal device a person owns – his or
her cell phone. That will change, and
Pollack Media Group is on the forefront
of that in our discussions with mobile
tech companies that solve this very
problem for radio companies.
That said; you simply should not and cannot dismiss the
Internet. It is the convergence of all
media as we know it, and the opportunity
for radio there is enormous. Beyond its
reach, large radio groups have such
strong assets to do well on the Internet
at both the market and national level.
The key is to get beyond thinking of
simple station websites. Today, if your
radio company Internet strategy is
nothing more than making local radio
websites look good, increasing their
page views, and improving Internet NTR
through things like creating car
dealership microsites, then your
strategic vision is too myopic.
On the Internet, radio companies have to strategize in
a new way, not just at the station level
but at the local cluster level where
radio stations of all formats need to
work together more actively than they
ever have in the past. At the national
level, corporate executives need to
understand how to leverage formatic
assets. It is almost mind-boggling that
the leading rock, hip hop, and pop music
sites on the Internet have no
relationship to a radio company.
There is a generation growing up without
terrestrial radio. What are your
thoughts on how it will affect the
medium? And how can radio turn this
trend around to reach the younger end?
Well, I think it is inaccurate to say
that a generation is growing up without
radio. Teens continue to consume radio
at a rate of over one-and-a-half hours a
day and over 9 out of 10 teens still
listen to the radio every week. I will
say that it is accurate to say that
teens are growing up without the LOVE of
radio that we may have experienced when
we were younger. Video gaming,
networking online, MP3 players, text
messaging – all of these things vie with
radio for the primacy in the lives of
youth today, and radio often comes in
second, third, or worse.
In terms of how this will affect radio, well we are
seeing it today with teens: Teen
listening is down significantly. Radio
will continue to see TSL decline well
into the future as new generations
become even more distracted by new
technologies and media possibilities.
The only real solution is to do what
network television did when it was faced
with the sudden onslaught of cable
television and a significant decline in
viewership – move into new distribution
channels either by buying in or
developing on their own. Radio has to do
the same thing with the Internet,
mobile, and video gaming.
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Do you see HD Radio as a viable entity?
What are your thoughts on the initial
ways radio is utilizing HD?
The audio medium is very competitive
right now, so it makes sense for radio
to overwhelm upstart competitors in
their space and co-opt it for their own.
The questions are: Which distribution
channel is HD Radio disrupting? Is
disrupting this distribution channel
worthwhile? And has the disruption been
effective?
Well, HD Radio isn't disrupting mobile or the Internet,
as HD Radio wasn't rolled out to be
delivered via the Internet or cell
phones. It's not disrupting the iPod,
because HD Radio is not on-demand. About
the only audio competitor left, other
than terrestrial radio itself, is
satellite radio, and it certainly looks
like HD Radio was rolled out as
terrestrial radio's answer for satellite
radio.
Does this make HD Radio viable, and was this a smart
move? Well, at this point in time it
certainly appears that HD Radio has yet
to achieve any of its goals. It hasn't
noticeably hurt satellite radio, and its
potential as a revenue-producer is found
on whiteboards and not on balance
sheets. It is even arguable whether the
satellite radio threat was worth
prioritizing, as the impending
distribution of audio via cell phones
and the growing popularity of Internet
streams appear to be much more
compelling threats.
Part of the trouble with the HD rollout is that it
compares unfavorably to satellite radio.
While the diversity of musical content
on HD Radio is wonderful, it simply
pales in comparison to the sports,
family, and entertainment options
offered on satellite radio. For the
consumer the final decision comes down
to "free and not really everything I
want" versus "paid but has all the
content I'm looking for." For the early
adopters who drive technology like this,
compromising and making concessions
aren't really what they are about.
Pollack Media has been involved in
social networking almost since the
concept’s inception. In what ways do you
work with radio to help them utilize
this platform?
You're right, we've worked with social
networking since the 2002 French launch
of Skyblogs.com, which is now known
simply as skyrock.com and is the second
most-trafficked website in France behind
Google. That network predates both
MySpace and Facebook, and we learned a
lot from them in the process. Today, we
are working with the Skyrock Network on
expanding their platform to other
countries.
In the United States we are working with the premier
white label social networking hosted
platform, KickApps. As a hosted
platform, KickApps provides the entire
infrastructure for a company to get up
and running with a comprehensive social
network in weeks or less. It is truly a
white label solution, so all of the
hosted social network pages look exactly
like they are part of the radio
station's own site.
Much of what I'm doing now is taking radio stations and
helping them integrate their current
site to the KickApps platform. While
KickApps is flexible enough to be
quickly launched as a plug-and-play
solution, we work closely with stations
to make sure that there is a strategic
framework to build around. You don't
just build a social network because it's
the hip thing to do.
So we look at a station's website, its listener
database, its airstaff, its current
online revenue strategy, and how they
all currently work together. We then
work together with the station to give
its large broadcast community a home on
the Internet. Again, this is not just
"build it and they will come." I work to
make sure that the execution at the
station level includes plenty of
interaction and content originating with
the jocks, the on-air content of the
station, and the needs of the sales
staff.
Beyond individual station integration, we work with
corporate and market managers at
creating the ability for a specific
radio station social network to
eventually flow into a market-wide or
national network. Luckily, this ability
is built into the KickApps platform, so
you can build a comprehensive individual
station solution with the knowledge that
a wider national or market-wide
implementation can easily be grown from
it.
What are your thoughts on radio’s
performance in using text messaging and
other forms of reaching listeners
through mobile entertainment tools?
Well, radio is lagging behind
practically every other medium and
country in the world in ALL new media
tools, and text messaging is no
exception. The potential of text
messaging is just huge for radio at both
the content and revenue level.
For sales departments, they finally have the ability to
offer coupons, and they can send the
coupon directly to the most intimate
device a person owns--his or her cell
phone. It's better than direct mail.
Beyond that, text messages are nearly
always read and when integrated well
with a station promotion can deliver an
astounding reach. Things will only get
better as radio stations improve their
databases, which can lead to
geo-targeted and behavioral advertising
done with cell phones. On the client
side, you are actually starting to see
advertisers request text messaging
elements to buys, and if my comments
here don't convince you, that fact
eventually will.
For programmers, you have a direct line to a listener
wherever he or she is. This provides you
with an incredibly flexible and creative
platform for communication. We've all
heard of upgrading tickets at concerts
via text message winners, but that
concept works everywhere. The cell phone
becomes both the ticket and the
messaging platform for any kind of local
promotion or event. And the ability to
send out messages with immediacy means
that you can be even more creative and
of-the-moment in promotion planning.
Finally, text messaging provides another way for a
listener to communicate with the radio
station. I have yet to hear anyone tell
me that giving the listener more ways to
be heard is a bad thing.
**QB Content by Michael Parrish**
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